Top Tips for Visiting Lincoln's Home and Tomb in Springfield, Illinois

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Dave did you say Abe Lincoln?

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some reason that always pops in hilarious I don't know what it is,

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but that just lodged its way into my brain, and as they say, it lives there.

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Rent So whenever we talk, whenever they talk about Abe Lincoln, I, for some

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reason, I think of that scene in Robin Hood You can tell I'm not a historian.

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Now, Jenn, before we get into it, I don't think I told you this before, I may have

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Oh, cool.

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for visiting Colonial Williamsburg.

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And it was Crystal Brooks.

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She actually said, this podcast was very helpful for preparing to

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visit my first time and will also be return to see the things I Yeah.

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So she found the podcast, she listened to it and kind of helped during her

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first visit, even though she didn't hit all the things that we talk

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Mm-hmm.

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In the world of American history, few names shine as brightly as Abraham A man

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of humble beginnings who rose to become the 16th President of the United States,

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Lincoln left a lasting mark on the nation during one of its most trying times.

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In

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this episode, we invite you to step back in time with us as we

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wander through the very rooms where Lincoln and his family lived.

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We'll uncover the stories behind the walls and wooden floors where Lincoln honed

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his skills as a lawyer and a politician.

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And our journey doesn't end with this long, his longtime home, we also venture

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over to Oak Ridge Cemetery where the 16th president's final resting place lies.

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Lincoln's tomb, a towering monument to his legacy, stands as a symbol of hope, unity,

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and the enduring pursuit So Jen, I kind of didn't bury the lead there, we're going to

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talk about Lincoln's home in Springfield,

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Yeah, it is an amazing place to visit.

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It when Abraham Lincoln boards the train to go to D.

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C.

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as the 16th president, he leaves in February of 1861, and he turns to

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the crowd in Springfield the last time he will see everyone there, and

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says to this place, in the kindness of these people, I owe everything.

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This is the only home Abraham Lincoln will ever own.

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And what's so significant about that, before we dive into what it looked like,

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is he gets there in Springfield in 1837.

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And remember, this is a man who's only had one year of actual school.

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Right?

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He's self taught himself everything.

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And so he gets to this town and not only does he see promise in this

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town, the town sees promise in him.

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He marries Mary Todd in 1842.

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They live at , Globe Tavern, which is kind of close to where

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his museum is today for a year.

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And then they rent a house on 4th Street.

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This house will be on 8th Street.

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And for a little while.

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For like another year, 1842, they live in the tavern.

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And then 1843, they rent the house.

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And then in May of 1844, they move in to their first home,

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his only home that he will buy.

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And it's on the corner of 8th Street and Jackson Street.

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And you pointed out in the video that across the street

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there's another home that looked like it initially when they got it.

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So I assume that they added the second story.

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Yeah.

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So when they.

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It's one story, like the house diagonally across the street.

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And that's the house I show because that's what it would have

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looked like when they moved in.

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And as they, they move in with Robert Todd, they've already had one child, but

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as they live there, they have three more.

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And so they need more space.

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So they extend the second story and put the second story on.

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And so it becomes what it looks like today.

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But I, I show the house diagonally across the street, and that's where

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that most photographed spot is as well.

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It's kind of diagonally across the

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They actually have, if you watch our video, they have like

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kind of a, a, a, it's a little more of like a just demonstration.

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But it's there across the street.

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And picture, if you can picture, if you've ever seen.

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An old photograph of Lincoln's home.

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That corner across the street, that's Caddy Corner diagonally, that's kind

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of the most commonly photographed one and we showed different pictures from

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that same across the street street corner multiple times and they, they

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have like a little fake camera and a little badge that says, from here is

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the most, you know, most photographed spot of the Lincoln home all that stuff.

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So it was really neat to

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It's really neat.

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And then, you know, a lot of historic photographs have been taken there.

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People who have come to visit throughout the years.

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And I wanted to give the correct address is 413 South 8th Street.

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And like I said, it's the corner of 8th and Jackson Street.

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And yeah, so I just, I, it's just fascinating to be there.

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Like you said, he is the figure of American history.

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So here he comes to this town, this town that believed in him.

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and he believed in the town.

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He meets Mary Todd.

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Mary Todd's visiting her sister.

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So that's her connection to the town.

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So she sees promise in this young man and they get married.

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They start to have children.

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They move into this house.

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He becomes a very prominent lawyer.

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He's one of the best state courtroom attorneys in Illinois.

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That's, that's so...

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It's hard to picture that nowadays, you know, someone like works their

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way up to become a lawyer that is a hundred percent self taught, you

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know, I mean, it really is incredible.

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You know, he, he, he really, and I think you mentioned it in the video, or if

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not the previous one from the Lincoln museum, that he is kind of like the icon

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Yes, yes.

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And so it's two years after he's moved into the House

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that he is elected to the U.

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S.

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House of Representatives in 1846.

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And then it's in 1858 that he starts, he loses the Senate to

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Stephen Douglas in those debates.

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But that's what's going to catapult him into the White House.

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Two years later.

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So there's just a lot, and we talked about this, a lot of

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successes, a lot of failures.

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He'll welcome three children in this house and he'll lose one in this house.

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He loses Eddie in this house.

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He'll die five weeks short of his fourth birthday.

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So he's born in 1846, the same time he's elected to the U.

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S.

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House of Representatives, Lincoln, and then he dies almost four years later.

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And so they hold his wake in the house.

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So when you visit the Lincoln house, it's not only where all three boys,

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the last three were born, but it's where Eddie's wake is going to be.

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So it's just, it shows you how, so much of the walls hold your life inside of it.

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And for Lincoln, that is so true.

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So when we walk through it, even in the parlor, that's where they

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come in and tell him, you're the nominee for president, right?

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And he doesn't accept it right away.

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So, it's so amazing to be in the space, and that's what I always

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say, to be in the space of history.

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It's where he's contemplating that.

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You can picture the gentleman coming in, telling him, and then his contemplation

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after they leave, after him talking with Mary Todd, after him playing

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with the boys, having some alone time, just how he's contemplating it.

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And we walk up the banister, you know, we walk up the stairs and, and

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the, the docent, the tour guide was like, you could touch the banister

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that Abraham Lincoln touched.

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Like he,

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it was, it was so cool.

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And coming into the house, right, it's, and it's all

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Mm-hmm.

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,it's run by the National Park Service.

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by the National

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It's all free.

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We'll tell you how to visit.

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yeah, we, we, you come in, and the one interesting thing that I thought

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was kind of neat, because everything is so original, right, and even the

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vast majority of the furniture and the items in the house, a lot of that

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stuff is, is original, you know, which I thought was fascinating, but that you

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actually have to stay on the carpet.

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So they have a carpet runner that's basically kind of going

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all throughout the house.

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And if you step off this carpet, there's actually like a little kind

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of like alarm that, that signals.

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And it happened once or twice because people just accidentally kind of, their

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foot shifted off or something like that.

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But they are, I mean, they do that because everything is original

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Yeah, so when they left for D.

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C., they put a lot of the furniture into storage.

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They rent out the house, but they had a full expectation to come home.

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They had full expectation for Abraham to be president for four years, eight years,

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and then retire back to Springfield, Illinois, come back to that house.

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So even though they had rented their house out, I think they

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rented it to the railroad.

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President.

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They had full expectations of coming back.

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And so the, the furniture still exists.

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And Robert Todd owned all of it.

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So when Robert Todd eventually hands the house over to be cared for by

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the federal government, it turns into the National Park Service.

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He gives all of the furniture and things to them as well.

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His two stipulations were it had to look the same, it had to be cared for,

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and it had to be free for visitors.

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But when you visit, so you can visit the Lincoln Home Visitor Center is

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where you want to go because you need a ticket to get into the house.

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And you can't just wander in.

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And it's right on 7th Street.

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So if you think, this is on.

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8th Street in Jackson.

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The visitor center is on 7th Street in Jackson.

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So it's one block over.

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And that's where the parking is.

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That's where the restrooms are.

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There's no restrooms in the Lincoln House.

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think they probably, they have like a couple of those little

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like, chamber pot stools.

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We showed some of those in the video.

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But they have no restroom in the house.

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They're probably the outhouse.

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And so, So that's where you're going to go.

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You see a little movie, you'll get a ticket because there are only so many

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people they allow per tour, even though it's free, you have to get on the

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schedule, and then you'll see a little movie, and of course there's a gift shop

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there, and it's a walk over, but it is all handicap accessible, so you can get in.

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And then your tour guide will take you in and again, they'll let me do the

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riot act about staying on the carpet.

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Absolutely.

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Will our, our tour guide, he was focused, he could tell he'd

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done this a bunch of times.

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I actually kind of enjoyed him.

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Yeah.

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I could tell he was a, he was a, a history nerd at heart.

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Just like you , and , the rest of our crew here.

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Yeah.

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But He had some interesting anecdotes.

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It was pretty straightforward as far as what he was telling us.

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Sure.

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It was, it was about the same kind of things about the rooms

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being used for him finding about the nomination at Eddie's wake.

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The kitchen was the size of his Kentucky cabin.

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And so Abraham Lincoln knew that it was the size of his Kentucky cabin.

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So he always felt like he had made it in life because his kitchen and his adult.

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House was the size of the house he grew up

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Yeah, and it was, it was pretty, that was neat because the

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perspective is immediate, right?

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You can, you're standing in this space with a bunch of other people

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hmm.

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and the kitchen ain't big.

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No, and, and really it's just, it's, it's again, it's just to make

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food because you're really going to spend time in the dining room.

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You're going to eat in the dining room and their bedroom suite, which we show on

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the video and the bed doesn't look good.

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big.

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I say

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Abraham Lincoln's supposed to be tall,

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supposed to be very tall.

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It doesn't look like a Lincoln sized bed.

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So he must have had to bend his knees to sleep.

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And it shows some of Mary Todd's dresses, of course.

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And then it shows the boys room.

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So Robert Todd in 1860, he will have left for college.

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And the two younger boys, Willie and Tad, will share that one boys room.

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And so they show the boys room as well.

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And it was neat too because you had mentioned you kind of reiterated

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in this video like we talked about in, in the previous Lincoln Museum video

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about how when Lincoln was raising some of his younger kids, he just

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kind of let them have free reign, you know, and he just kind of let them

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run around because he didn't want them to have kind of adult worries.

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And it was neat because I was able to find some.

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Pictures of Lincoln sitting out front with two of his younger kids, you know,

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kind of sitting on that little fence

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and it's obviously it's cropped in from

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the fence and just so there he was with his kids right there It wasn't very

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clear and it's obviously it's cropped in from a photo from across the street

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that corner we were talking But it was, it was neat to, to see that, right?

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And then they have the same style fence there today as they did back in the 1860s.

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So you could picture Lincoln's kids just sitting on this fence and climbing

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around and him sitting out front because you could see an old picture

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And they also said that they would scream out the windows at him because

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he'd walk to and from work, right?

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So when Daddy's coming home, they run out on the porch and run out.

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On the second story, they would climb out their windows and be on the roof

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of the sec of that first story, that kind of, and scream for their dad.

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And people were just so used to the Lincoln Boys.

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Acting crazy and screaming for their dad when the dad was coming home.

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He just kind of let them do that They said Mary Todd said they

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would wrestle around the house.

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It'd be so loud He loved to wrestle with his boys and he really loved

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what they loved and he hated what they hated so he just It to me, it

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reminds me of someone who's growing up with their children, right?

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Because he didn't have much of a childhood.

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So he took the time to really grow up with them.

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And if you ever saw the movie Lincoln, like he gets on the floor

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and he's playing with the little soldiers with Tad because he wants to.

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play with his kids.

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He wants to be immersed

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started working when he was pretty

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Yeah, his mother dies when so it's a really neat place to see.

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It's there for you.

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Again, National Park Service, all buildings were closed at five.

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But what's neat about the Lincoln Home is they've kind

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of preserved the whole street.

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8th Street and Jackson Street, they've kind of preserved, I would

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say about four blocks in the area.

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And there's other famous homes there.

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There's a home where the president of Sears grew up.

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And so you can walk around other homes as well.

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And the streets are cut off from traffic.

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So you can walk in the middle of them and you can kind of

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picture what it would feel like.

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So you can I can, I can, I would assume that even back

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then it was probably pretty nice.

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Yeah.

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Because the houses are bigger, the streets are really wide and right,

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you know, if you have the town slash state lawyer living there, or someone

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who's a senator, right, I mean, Lincoln's living in a nice, a nice

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neighborhood because he's, he's done

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It's done well.

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And so it's almost like Colonial Williamsburg in some regards, they'll

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have, has that vibe and you'll have people who dress up as Abraham and

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Mary Todd and you can interact with them walking down the street and they,

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they light the gas lights and stuff and there'll be historic talks and

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historic tours of the whole street.

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And they, they have the schedule also at the National Park Service.

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So they do a really good job of kind of immersing you in.

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Abraham Lincoln's life during that time, 1840s, 1850s, to

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right when he leaves in 1860s,

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Yeah, and we were on a bit of a schedule that

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mm hmm.

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we knew that, that rain was coming, and we were also

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trying to to stay on the road.

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So from there, we ventured over to Lincoln's tomb, which wasn't too far away.

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When he is elected president in February of 1861, he takes

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this long convoluted train tour.

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From Springfield, Illinois, mostly the northern route, but he goes through

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the states and hits the Great Lakes And he comes wraps around New York

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down into DC so after he's killed they basically do the same kind of

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procession with the funeral train

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1865

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Yeah, so on May 4th, 1865 his coffin will pass in front of his So the

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only house he ever owned, the only house, the house he thought he was going home

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to, his coffin will pass in front of it.

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So the tomb is built over in Oak Ridge Cemetery.

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He will be placed into a receiving vault there as they build the tomb and

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we show it on the video It is a very nice granite tomb and it has a lot of

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sculptures We'll talk a little bit about what you see when you walk in and stuff.

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But in 1871 He's placed in the crypt.

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It's it's unfinished, but he's so it takes about six years to get the crypt

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made and then In 1887 because people had broken in and tried to steal his body,

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they move him into a concrete vault and it's 10, it's actually 10 feet below

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where you actually, what you actually

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and as you walk up, right, parking is pretty easy.

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You can find it, you can easily look it up

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mm-hmm.

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And it's indoor.

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So if, if it was raining, you could walk in.

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walk in inside of, inside of the crypt area, but outside you walk

Scott: 00:18:52

up and it's kind of like a smaller version of like a Washington monument,

Jenn: 00:18:55

Yes.

Jenn: 00:18:56

Yeah.

Jenn: 00:18:56

Obelisk.

Jenn: 00:18:57

Mm-hmm.

Scott: 00:18:57

all this, all this style with statues of him throughout, I

Scott: 00:19:00

think, different stages of his life.

Scott: 00:19:02

Life and

Jenn: 00:19:03

Yes.

Jenn: 00:19:03

Around the obelisk.

Scott: 00:19:04

around the obelisk and then there's kind of the bust

Scott: 00:19:07

of him that's out front, right?

Scott: 00:19:09

It's that kind of very he's got such a famous profile,

Jenn: 00:19:13

right?

Scott: 00:19:13

So that's it's him.

Scott: 00:19:15

And we were talking about it just before we jumped on the

Scott: 00:19:18

podcast, but it's it's the same.

Scott: 00:19:20

Sculpture model that we use, that was used for Mount Rushmore.

Jenn: 00:19:25

Yeah, Borglum uses the same model and you can tell his nose

Jenn: 00:19:29

is pretty shiny because people rub the Lincoln nose for luck.

Scott: 00:19:33

all our kids wanted

Jenn: 00:19:34

Yeah.

Jenn: 00:19:35

So you can see the patina on all the other bronze, but the nose is very shiny.

Scott: 00:19:39

on all the nose is very shiny.

Scott: 00:19:40

Yeah, that's and then from there, you, as you start kind of behind

Scott: 00:19:44

the bus, so the bus is looking outwards, facing away from the

Scott: 00:19:47

and as you walk kind of past the bus, then you start walking into the, the

Scott: 00:19:52

crypt there, and above the door, I believe, was the Gettysburg Address.

Jenn: 00:19:56

Yes, the Gettysburg Address is right above the door.

Jenn: 00:19:59

And when you walk straight in the door, it's the statue of the Lincoln

Jenn: 00:20:03

Memorial, him sitting in the chair.

Jenn: 00:20:06

And there's a book there you can sign to.

Jenn: 00:20:08

And so from there, it's kind of like a circle.

Jenn: 00:20:11

You walk from the right around into a circle.

Jenn: 00:20:13

And there's different statues of Lincoln's life growing up as he progresses.

Jenn: 00:20:18

And then basically, like directly across from where you walked in is where

Jenn: 00:20:23

The actual crypt is where Lincoln's.

Jenn: 00:20:27

Crypt is, and then the boys.

Jenn: 00:20:28

Now, it gives you the impression that Lincoln is in the middle, in

Jenn: 00:20:33

his crypt, and Mary Todd's across.

Jenn: 00:20:35

They're actually together.

Scott: 00:20:36

Oh, I didn't

Jenn: 00:20:37

They're actually side by side, ten feet below.

Jenn: 00:20:40

And the boys are across.

Jenn: 00:20:41

And it's only three of the four boys.

Jenn: 00:20:43

You have Eddie, who has died young.

Jenn: 00:20:46

He was already in Springfield, and they moved his body there.

Jenn: 00:20:49

And then you have Willie , who will die while they're at the White House.

Jenn: 00:20:52

And then you'll have Thomas, I'm sorry, Tad , who dies in 1871.

Jenn: 00:20:57

So poor Mary Todd has these three boys.

Jenn: 00:21:00

Robert Todd is the only one who's not there.

Jenn: 00:21:02

We have talked about this before.

Jenn: 00:21:04

He's in Arlington National Cemetery.

Jenn: 00:21:06

He really has his own place.

Jenn: 00:21:08

He has a crypt, a sarcophagus,

Scott: 00:21:11

it's a big one.

Jenn: 00:21:11

it looks just like Lincoln's.

Jenn: 00:21:13

It almost looks like a replica of Lincoln's in.

Jenn: 00:21:16

Arlington National Cemetery.

Scott: 00:21:18

You know, I never actually thought about that, but we just watched the

Scott: 00:21:21

video before we jumped on the podcast, and you're right, it's the same color

Jenn: 00:21:24

Yeah, like a pink marble.

Jenn: 00:21:26

And Robert Todd is in Arlington.

Jenn: 00:21:30

There's a long story about So, Robert Todd, we've talked about this before.

Jenn: 00:21:34

He is present with three, present with, he kind of is surrounded by

Jenn: 00:21:41

three assassinations of the four

Scott: 00:21:42

right, so he was basically either near, next to, or in the vicinity of

Scott: 00:21:48

three presidents who were assassinated.

Jenn: 00:21:50

Yeah, so his father, he wasn't there.

Jenn: 00:21:52

He was at home when he was shot, but he's...

Jenn: 00:21:55

by his side when he dies.

Jenn: 00:21:57

And then he works for Garfield.

Jenn: 00:21:59

President Garfield, he's the Secretary of War, and so he's with him in

Jenn: 00:22:03

the train station in Washington, D.

Jenn: 00:22:05

C.

Jenn: 00:22:05

as he's, Garfield's going to visit his wife, and Lincoln is with

Jenn: 00:22:09

him when he's shot in the back.

Jenn: 00:22:11

You know, he's not with him when he dies, but he's with him when he's shot.

Scott: 00:22:14

Robert Todd.

Jenn: 00:22:14

And then Mc, McKinley, when McKinley shot in 1901 in Buffalo, New

Jenn: 00:22:18

York at the World's Fair, Robert Todd Lincoln standing right outside the door.

Scott: 00:22:23

so

Jenn: 00:22:23

It's crazy, right?

Jenn: 00:22:25

But Abraham Lincoln's tomb is amazing.

Scott: 00:22:28

It's, it's really nice.

Scott: 00:22:30

Not far, maybe like a mile or

Jenn: 00:22:32

Yeah, and, and I would say you have to go to both.

Jenn: 00:22:35

If you're gonna go, if you're gonna hit the museum, you want to hit the house.

Jenn: 00:22:39

If you're gonna hit the house, you want to hit the tomb.

Jenn: 00:22:41

It's like, those are the three big things we saw.

Jenn: 00:22:44

I would recommend it be the three big things you see in Springfield.

Jenn: 00:22:46

The house and the two are free.

Jenn: 00:22:50

The museum is not,

Scott: 00:22:58

But the tomb All things in Springfield, right?

Scott: 00:23:01

Just to kind of summarize, and I know that was the episode that just posted

Scott: 00:23:05

before this one about the Lincoln Museum.

Scott: 00:23:07

It's amazing.

Scott: 00:23:09

The Lincoln Home was kind of like the cherry on top because the Lincoln Museum

Scott: 00:23:13

gave you like that Disney, you felt like you were transported back in time.

Scott: 00:23:18

The Lincoln Home, like you really are transported back in time.

Scott: 00:23:21

You're walking through.

Scott: 00:23:23

The Lincoln house.

Scott: 00:23:25

You're seeing his furniture.

Scott: 00:23:26

You're seeing his kitchen.

Scott: 00:23:28

There's stories about this 600 pound stove that he had bought, I think, not

Scott: 00:23:33

long before he left for the kitchen that they had brought out like while

Scott: 00:23:37

he was in the White House that.

Scott: 00:23:39

Because again, they had planned to come back and it was.

Scott: 00:23:43

It was truly incredible to be there and like you said touch the same banister

Scott: 00:23:48

That Lincoln touched every single time he walked up and down those stairs.

Scott: 00:23:52

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Scott: 00:23:57

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